it WAS thuraday tabacco rnr leather, I dyed them black and loaded them with a bit of picards leather dressing (the high end kangaroo whips use) and saphir beaut de lux black UNDERWRAPS Faux Leather Black Whip Costume Accessories for Adult Play, Halloween Party Accessory, Cowboy Cosplay Whip, Funny Gift's Walmart.com Indy Whip Accessories Aussie Whip Maker Whip Care Kangaroo Hide Bull Whips, Stock Whips, Hat Bands, Red Hide Stock Whips and Cow Slaps hand built by G J Nemeth.